November 28, 2009

Womyn "Priests"

Just curious. Do the self-titled womyn “priests”: hear confessions, anoint the sick, lead rosary processions, promote eucharistic adoration, bury the dead, get up at 2:00 a.m. when they get an emergency phone call, lead Scripture studies?

I’m curious how far their hubris and hypocrisy extends.

If you are going to “play priest” how far are you willing to go?
There’s more to being a priest than Eucharist. Eucharist is central, but it’s not all there is.

And that’s all I have to say about that.

21 Comments:

Blogger nazareth priest said...

You hit the nail on the head.
Don't need to say much more.
These are the questions that come to my mind...I even had the "gall" to bring this up at a comment box at a better-not-mentioned national paper that purports to be Catholic and got my wings clipped.
Truth is truth.

November 28, 2009 11:30 AM  
Blogger Ray from MN said...

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November 28, 2009 12:48 PM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Fr NP: That was brave of you! :-) I know how poisonous those comment threads can get. I think it's terrible how they treat priests who dare to bring up the Truth over there.

Ray: 3-day weekend! I'll give you 4 LJ's for that one!

November 28, 2009 1:41 PM  
Blogger Nan said...

Umm, I'm acquainted with the consort of a Womynpriest and have been told they're required to have Theology degrees. They have an alleged bishop in this area and meet at other churches.

They think that women's ordination is inevitable, though not with Pope Benedict as he's too conservative.

I have trouble with a few things; why would these particular women be ordained when they've already proven they're disobedient? And if they're doing the right thing, why do they hide everything they do for fear of their supporters being excommunicated?

November 28, 2009 2:10 PM  
Blogger Ray from MN said...

I believe that their theology instruction is limited to the proper wearing of the chasuble in an incredible number of stylish versions, with matching stoles and purses, of course.

Seminary life lasts for only a three day weekend.

November 28, 2009 2:27 PM  
Blogger Ray from MN said...

Cath: I you had seen my addition of "purses" to their ensemble, I surely would have deserved 5 LJ's for that effort!

November 28, 2009 3:04 PM  
Blogger Ray from MN said...

Nan

I suspect it wouldn't be too hard to get a degree in theology with a specialization in contemporary pagan religions at some colleges.

I know a liturgist in the Twin Cities who has a PhD from Notre Dame. His dissertatation was on the design of baptismal founts over the centuries.

Actually, he is a very good liturgist, in my opinion. But I doubt that even he would think he could be a priest without six more years of schooling or so.

Priests are required to have a Bachelor of Arts in Philosophy (probably not Kierkegaard or Heidegger) and three years of Catholic Theology.

November 28, 2009 3:15 PM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Ray: Anything for an LJ!

Nan: Good points. I firmly believe that NONE of the Holy Father's sucessors are going to give them what they want in this regard.

November 28, 2009 3:43 PM  
Blogger Angela M. said...

Do dissidents and heretics even acknowledge Eucharistic Adoration even exists?

November 28, 2009 4:57 PM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Angel Baby: They acknowledge that it existed back in the ancient times before Vatican II and all that hee-haw.

November 28, 2009 8:29 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

wait.....
WHERE are they getting the purses from????



:D

November 28, 2009 9:46 PM  
Blogger Nan said...

Cathy, I'm sure they're not going to be ordained; JPII long ago informed the world that it isn't possible for women to be priests.

The interesting part is that they ignore the Latin Rite norm of a celibate priesthood and claim that the Bible was censored to exclude the books showing women as priests and bishops. That whole mean patriarchy thing again.

Ray, I'm just reporting what the koolaid drinkers told me. They think their theology degrees and desire are enough but ignore the fact that it isn't enough to want to be a priest

November 29, 2009 12:43 AM  
Blogger Ray from MN said...

Chris:

That's as secret as their ordination and "mass" locations!

November 29, 2009 9:10 AM  
Blogger Melody K said...

I don't believe the Catholic Church is ever going to ordain women; nor do I believe that it should.
However, has anyone read the book "Evensong" by Gail Godwin? It is about an Episcopal priest. Who is a woman. Not a "Bishop Schorri" type; she serves in a southern small town. And yes she does get up in the middle of the night for sick calls and hear confessions. It is an entertaining book, and the main character is believable. The reason I bring it up is that the "womynpriest" caricature is always good for a few laughs in the blogosphere, but it isn't always accurate. Of course the difference between an Episcopal priest who is a woman, and a Catholic woman who is "ordained" is that the Catholic is living in disobedience to her Church; while the Episcopal is only doing what is allowed by her denomonation(validity is a whole other subject!).

November 29, 2009 3:16 PM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Melody K: Thank you.

November 29, 2009 5:09 PM  
Blogger LarryD said...

Cathy - womypreests don't hear confessions because they don't believe in sin to begin with.

November 30, 2009 9:21 AM  
Anonymous Banjo Pickin' Girl said...

I was studying to be an Anglican priest once. Then, thanks to some nice Catholic people in my secular workplace (seminary was part time), I decided that I was really being called to be Catholic. A lay Catholic.

Anyhoo, when I was studying, what I was most interested in was visiting sick people at home and in the hospital. I thought that was where the rubber met the road. I was going to beg my bishop to let me be a permanent deacon.

Maybe I am different than those women who want to be Catholic priests but I very much believed in sin and all the "other stuff." Which is why I converted!

I don't think we can generalize about what people think or believe based on only one thing about them. There has been a lot of venom on this subject on both sides.

November 30, 2009 11:00 AM  
Blogger Ray from MN said...

"Banjo Picking Girl":

Check with the priest chaplain at a hospital near you. You could get his name from your diocesan office.

I'm sure he needs help.

I do that at a hospital in the Twin Cities as a lay volunteer.

It sometimes is called "Spiritual Triage" for the priest who can't be everywhere at once.

We visit patients, chat with them, pray with them, give them prayer books, rosaries and bibles if they want them, give them Holy Communion (we are EMHC's), and find out if they need a priest for Confession, Annointing, a conversation, or whatever.

This frees up the chaplain his time with the patients that really need him.

November 30, 2009 6:45 PM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Banjo Pickin' Girl: Ray is right and God bless him for his volunteer work!

Also, many parishes could use help visiting the parishioners who are homebound, in nursing homes or hospitals. Frequently, lay ministers assist the priest and deacons in that effort.

November 30, 2009 9:59 PM  
Anonymous BPG said...

Thanks Ray and Cathy.

Now I am on the other side of it, being one of the sick/disabled. But this sure helps the prayer life!

I think of Corrie ten Boom's last years and am encouraged.

December 01, 2009 11:39 AM  
Anonymous Macabeus said...

Greta topic and responses!

December 04, 2009 12:21 PM  

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