November 05, 2009

Argument of the Month Club-for Women

Note: not for LADIES, but for WOMEN! Ok, LOL! Yes, we should be ladies too, but as, Adoro says: "This ain't yo Mama's sewing circle!"

Adoro, me and one other woman are in the planning stages of a local, female, version of the current, local, Argument of the Month Club which is male only. I want to be clear, and I know Adoro will agree with me, this is not some feminazi attempt to insinuate ourselves into a male-only club. The male-only Argument of the Month club is needed and God bless 'em. May they continue for many years.

I've long been at odds with many other females of my generation. I've long believed that there are instances where single gender education, events and clubs are needed. There was a reason I went to a woman-only college. When I got out of high school, I needed the confidence boost of single gender education. My alma mater may have many faults, but I give them mad props for building my confidence.

Read more about the plan, such as it is now, on Adoro's blog. If you are interested in knowing more (and even better-helping organize!), contact one of us thru a blog comment or you can send me an email at:


Blogger Ray from MN said...

I wouldn't say I'm "speechless" but I don't know what to say!

Other than don't schedule your distaff event on the Second Tuesdays of the month. There might be a shortage of babysitters that night.

And it's a wonderful idea. God Bless!

November 05, 2009 7:01 PM  
Anonymous Cindy Kashenina said...

Hieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! My name is Cindy - I want to sign up real quick like to be with all you gals when you meet to talk about church stuff. I wear a blue chapel veil everywhere I go, and I have a real cute denim jumper that kind of matches. I have to wear white socks with my sandals cuz my feet... I wear a bomber jacket too - I hope it's not too butch - I'm really into centering prayer too. Can I call you or should I jus keep checkin' for when the meeting happens? Can I bring my dog? It's a boy dog but he's been fixed.

November 05, 2009 9:15 PM  
Blogger Terry Nelson said...

Oh what a truly wonderful idea - how novel - women getting together to argue. I shall help publicize this new gathering as well - I don't want to be outdone in generosity by Ray again. ;D

November 05, 2009 10:08 PM  
Blogger Adoro said...

Cindy/Terry ~ You should really adjust your medication, the different personalities are at war! Or do you need a new professional to help you with your MPD problems? I might be able to get you a referral if necessary...

November 05, 2009 11:32 PM  
Anonymous saintos said...

Wishing the both of you the very best. I'm a guy and not much for arguing so I guess I'm sorta relieved actually...

November 06, 2009 7:56 AM  
Blogger Adoro said...

I'm not a debater myself, but think I can learn by watching/listening to those who are!

And it won't be solid debate anyway. We can get speakers to come and give a presentation on some issue, then those who DO like to debate and may be at odds with the speaker can have a chance to exercise their position. Could be fun.

November 06, 2009 9:00 AM  
Blogger Terry Nelson said...

We just need pain meds Adoro. ;)

November 06, 2009 9:37 AM  
Blogger Ray from MN said...

If you don't have a sense of humor or have speakers who can give and take a lot of good natured ribbing, don't go.

There is lots of laughter, along with serious comments at the men's AOTM.

November 06, 2009 10:54 AM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Cindy/Terry: What Adoro said. I also want to know if you change clothes each time you adopt the other persona?

"Can't take a good natured ribbing" Ray, that sounds like what I consider every time you and I get together! LOL!

November 06, 2009 11:50 AM  
Blogger Terry Nelson said...

Cath - you may find that out if Cindy ever shows up. (More insane laughter!)

November 06, 2009 12:15 PM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

No, Ter, it is YOU who will be surprised!

November 06, 2009 2:57 PM  
Blogger swissmiss said...

A blue chapel veil? Is it handmade?

Please tell me the meetings won't be pot luck :)

November 06, 2009 4:04 PM  
Blogger nazareth priest said...

I think this is a MAAH-VELOUS idea.
From past, painful experience, I think women need to work things out on their own turf...not that I'm a sexist or misogynist (although I have been called one on other blogs that I will not name)...there is a "feminine mystique" or as JPII calls it, a feminine "genius" that no man should attempt to let us say, get involved in?!
I agree with you about the single gender education/formation aspect.
I taught high school for one year (and ended up in the monastery but that's another story!) and I think that there is something important about that.

November 07, 2009 3:55 PM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Thanks, Father, for the support!

November 07, 2009 5:26 PM  
Blogger nazareth priest said...

You are most welcome.
May I ask, did you attend the College of Saint Catherine??
Just wonderin'?

November 07, 2009 5:56 PM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Father: Yes, I did. For undergrad and my graduate work (grad work was on their campus but degreed elsewhere)

I chose St. Catherine of Alexandria as my patroness; both because I like her story as well as a (pathetic-but I try) attempt at reclamation. She is the namesake of the U of St. Catherine (formerly College of St. Catherine).

November 08, 2009 10:07 AM  
Blogger nazareth priest said...

I did not know that. I thought it was St. Catherine of Sienna...God bless you for taking St. Catherine of Alexandria as your patron as a means of is so sad to see how so many formerly strong and solid womens' religious communities have succumbed to the "spirit of the world"...The Catholic woman, married, single,consecrated and religious, has a very important part to play in the mission of the Church.
The many "mulieris fortis" of the many centuries of the Church show how important it is for the feminine "genius" to be a complement to the hierarchy (masculine dimension) of the Church.
I am indebted to contemplative nuns, religious sisters, married women, single women who have been great supports and examples for me throughout my life.
Why do the liberals/dissenters think that those who are faithful to the Church hate women? I don't get it...but then, again, I'm probably naive...:<)!

November 08, 2009 3:08 PM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Father: Many think that women, like me, who love the Church just as it is, think we must hate ourselves. They refuse to admit that a woman can be perfectly happy and content within the Church without calling for selfish reforms and changes.

I enjoy St. Catherine of Siena's writings very much. A holy man of God gave me an excerpt of her writings as a Confirmation gift. I think he thought of St. Catherine of Siena as the Confirmation name I chose (I chose Catherine of Alexandria as my Confirmation name). That's ok, I never consider any kind-hearted mistakes like that as wrong-headed! :-)

November 08, 2009 4:10 PM  
Blogger Terry Nelson said...

Cath - way off topic, but you are hard to pin down.
Say - was that you and Ray who drove by my house today, with the top down and the radio blasting, and paintballed me while I was raking up leaves?

November 08, 2009 4:54 PM  
Blogger Adoro said...

Nazareth Priest ~ The feminazis take St. Catherine of Siena as theirs, as well as St. Joan of Arc and a few others. It is maddening...clearly they miss the point of those saints! St. Catherine of Siena, as we know, wasn't seeking power! She was seeking the good of the Church and bringing a great evil to a close (well, that's how God used her...) But I think that's a big part of it; those who dissent have a problem with authority, of anyone being used by God to perform something. They want to rely on themsevles, and see only themselves in the face of a big bad God who would dare to give authority to men....and thus they ignore the beauty of the Church's teaching on women, the importance of Mary, the authentic femininity without which the Church would not survive. In fact, it never would have been at all!

I know I'm preaching to the choir here. :-)

We DO need a priest advisor though, as we need to ensure proper authority given we'll get into some squishy topics, points of contention, etc. Thus..we still need a priest associated with us!

November 09, 2009 8:48 AM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Ter: Nah. I wouldn't want to throw paint on your clothes. I'm still using the super soaker squirt gun-like I did that one time.

It may have been Ray with one of his women. You know what a chick magnet he is!

November 09, 2009 10:01 AM  
Blogger Laura The Crazy Mama said...

Wha...WHAT? Holysmokes, I'm out of the loop! SIGN ME UP! Of course, since Ray is the inspiration, I think that he won't have an issue with one of us gals going (incognito) to an AOTM meeting know...just to get some tips and such. I'll start growing my beard today.

November 12, 2009 12:39 PM  
Blogger Laura The Crazy Mama said...

OH! And I have LOTS of good topics but I'm afraid to post them here, for fear of starting an argument prematurely.

November 12, 2009 12:43 PM  
Blogger Ray from MN said...

Craze, you gotta 'member that I know what you all look like so you'd best have really good disguises.

And Cathy can testify that my disguises are the best!

November 12, 2009 4:40 PM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Crazy Mama: Oh, yes I already assumed you'd want to participate! We are still in planning stages. No formal or informal meetings yet wherein we actually discuss or argue anything.

Now all we have to worry about is Ray crashing in drag.

November 13, 2009 1:52 PM  

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