April 06, 2008

Church Militant

Adoro has a very thoughtful post you should read called Church Militant.As I've learned more about the Faith, I've avoided some of the forums-even, sadly, some of those that helped me revert. They are too inflammatory. They mean to do good, but often, they degenerate into a circus.


Anonymous adoro said...

Thanks for the link! They do mean well, but it can get heated and degenerate from there very quickly.

I've also had people tell me they were "right" about an alleged Church teaching, something open to theological discussion as it would not affect faith/morals, etc. (Sorry, really vague kinda thing). And I had actually presented the closest thing to official church teaching on the subject. Which I've since found is definitely the dominant position...the position the other guy, who was flaming everyone was taking was that he was right and if we disagreed we must not be Catholic.

Amazing. I got so sick of that so I just don't go anymore. Besides...the forums are great for making connections, trying to get a feel for what other people think, etc., but once you're grounded and you have resources, well, there's no need to debate opinions when you can see for yourself the answer to your questions, objectively.

April 06, 2008 11:18 AM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Adoro: It can get really ugly when you debate something that is not doctrine but is encouraged as a just or good practice. For instance; some of the social justics teachings of the Church. Yes, it's best and it's encouraged by Holy Church to pay your employees a living wage but it's not doctrine to do so.

April 06, 2008 6:05 PM  
Blogger Adoro te Devote said...

Cathy ~ Yet that same thing IS a sin, maybe a serious sin, if that just wage is not paid. I've seen it on several examinations of conscience.

Not, it's not doctrine, but a living wage is part of the moral order, and follows logic. And dignity.

The situation in question I wrote about was more about the reasons for certain historical events. I can't remember a lot, but I gave one facet of the Church's teaching on suffering. I later read this idea in JP2's works, among others. The individual in question was just a flamer who basically told me to go get baked somewhere else. So he and the other guy debated something stupid, my comment was ignored, I was dismissed as "not Catholic", and can I just say I feel very vindicated by the research and work I've done through school to validate what I had put forth (which wasn't just from me, but from something I'd read), while the yahoos debating were actually off in left field, as they congratulated each other on being both on the side of "right"? LOL!

I'm so done with that kind of thing. Having a blog does bring it up, but it's why I tend to avoid the more polemical issues. Although you know me...when I have something to say, I say it.

So...the pics on the post referenced were two of my later works, I think. I think I used a couple photos from TIME and US NEWS & World Report as models. At the time, I never thought they'd be useful! LOL! God has a sense of humor.

April 06, 2008 8:38 PM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

Adoro: I forgot to mention your sketches. I loved them. The eyes on the soldier are very nice. Who was your model? :-)

April 07, 2008 6:07 AM  
Blogger Adoro te Devote said...

Cathy ~ Just a photograph I found in a magazine. At the time, I was working on trying to capture real expressions, as opposed to some bland face with...blah.

April 07, 2008 7:54 AM  

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