February 05, 2008

Mardi Gras!

Today, is the final day before the penitential season of Lent begins. It does not mean, however, that you should cram in as much sin as you can today! If you want to start your penance early, participate in a caucus tonight! LOL! *Yawn* I'm not wild for any of the candidates. I think I'd rather meet some ladies for wine this evening instead.


Blogger swissmiss said...

Penance has already started with all the surveyors calling. One caller asked if I was going to vote for Clinton or Obama. I just laughed and said neither. She made it sound like I was the only one in the state not planning to vote for either one of them. She then asked me, in all seriousness with a very school-marmish tone, if I planned to attend the caucuses and I had to tell her no (prior plans involving wine, women and possibly song).

February 05, 2008 8:11 AM  
Anonymous Lisa said...

Right on, sis-tahs!:)

February 05, 2008 8:37 AM  
Blogger Ray from MN said...

I haven't been to a caucus for a very long time, but I think I am going to go tonight.

And for those of you not familiar with the system, your precinct will be allocated a specific number of delegates and an equal number of alternates to your Senate District Convention that will take place in a month or two.

Of course, you understand that caucuses are convened by the political parties. So only people who declare that they are Republicans, Democrats, or Greens (or whatever) caucuses will be at your caucus. Check the Secretary of State's office for your caucus location:


At 8:30 or so, the caucus convener will declare that attendance is closed and a count will be made of those present.

If your caucus is allocated 10 delegates (and alternates) and there are 50 people present, then it takes 5 votes to elect one delegate.

Nominations are then made for "sub-caucuses." People, many of them well prepared, some not so well prepared, will nominate sub-caucuses for candidates (there may be more than one sub-caucus for a candidate - for example, Obama for President, Obama-Franken, Obama-Ciresi, etc.). Somebody will no doubt nominate an "Independent Uncommitted" subcaucus also.

Voting "uncommitted" for an office is a legitimate and time-honored practice.

After the nominations, a time will be set for people to "join" subcaucuses. This is when you can go over and find out from the nominators just what the group will stand for and then you may choose to join one of them. After a time, the subcaucusing is closed and the total number of people in each is reported to the convener.

In our hypothetical precinct, if you have 10 delegates and 50 present, if a subcaucus had 22 people in it, they will get four of the ten delegates (and alternates) from that precinct.

If a subcaucus does not have 5 members, the minimum to elect a delegate, a time will be given for those people to select another, "viable", subcaucus or merge two "non-viable" subcaucuses.

After the subcaucuses are determined, people will present resolutions to help create the party platform and voting will be held on those resolutions.

Caucusing can be intimidating, but it is a good way to meet your neighbors and to participate in the Minnesota electoral process.

You are not sworn to vote or participate for a candidate that you endorse at the precinct level. Of course, if you don't, you will irritate people who were counting on you and it will be difficult for you to get elected in future caucusing.

February 05, 2008 10:19 AM  
Blogger Terry Nelson said...

I'm too drunk to go to the caucus!

February 05, 2008 11:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As I am doing some research, I see that the caucuses begin at 7:00 this evening.

So the cutoff for attendance must be be before 8:30. I would be there by 7:30 if I were you. But it would be better to make it by 7:00 so you can get to chat with some of your neighbors and find out what they think is going to happen here.

Once things start, they will move quickly and you really won't get much of a chance to ask many questions about procedures.

I truly don't understand why I have to keep signing in on these blogs, so I will be anon on this post.

February 05, 2008 11:42 AM  
Anonymous Dixie Carter said...

Beverly Sutfin: "Dottie Henckel, do you drink?"

February 05, 2008 11:52 AM  
Anonymous Dixie Carter said...

Beverly Sutfin: "Dottie Henckel, do you drink?"

February 05, 2008 11:52 AM  
Blogger Our Word said...

I've done my share of caucuses, especially when I was running for the legislature. Never again! They are actually kind of fun, or can be, if you get a good turnout of people who are engaged in the issues. Unfortunately, us candidates look at caucus attendees as being the pool from which we can get volunteers, and too many of them are simply there to make themselves heard without regard to helping out later.

I think it is no coincidence that Super Tuesday is followed by Ash Wednesday. No matter who wins in November, we'll be doing four years of penance. We might as well start now... :)


February 05, 2008 12:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mitchell: Too many of them are simply there to make themselves heard without regard to helping out later.

They are also there to get elected as a massage their ego. My most effective nomination speech for a position as an alternate to the District Convention one year end up with something along the line of "I don't care if I am a delegate or not because I know that 80% of you who want to get yourself elected as a District delegate will never be seen again and I will easily take your seat and vote at the District Convention." And of course that is always the case.

February 05, 2008 5:49 PM  
Blogger Tom in Vegas said...

Oh, that's right! It's Super Tuesday.

Big deal.

Your next President will be Hilary Clinton. Bow to your master!

Mr. Clinton looks forward to revitalizing his dating life with tax-payer Secret Service protecting his behind.

February 05, 2008 8:13 PM  
Blogger ignorant redneck said...

Does this mean that not only do i have to listen to people argue over who will be the next person to betray our cultures Christian roots, but that I shouldn't have had those 18 beer at that topless club with the snake dancer?

February 05, 2008 9:21 PM  
Blogger Cathy_of_Alex said...

swissmiss and Lisa! Thas white! LOL! I was with Swissy and Lisa at the wine bar. Good times and good wine and great conversation!

Ray: I'm glad you went, Hillary needs your vote! ;-)

Mitchell: I've been to caucuses in the past. It is interesting and great to be involved. I'd go if I felt like I gave a 'rip about any of the candidates. Not enough this year to go out and vote. I'm waiting until it all shakes out and then I'm writing you in as a candidate so be ready! Actually, at times the caucus can be "taken over" by the really activist individuals who tend to be HEAVILY involved in party politics. However, I still think people should go. I say that and I'm out drinking. Oh well....maybe in 4 years. 4 years of penance is a long time-LOL! I think I like my plan to sit for a few hours on the ice at Como Lake in an ash pile better. That's just a few hours.


Tom: Yeah, football is over for the year, hon. You can go out again now! Bill will be interviewing interns.

Redneck: Do you have photos?

February 05, 2008 9:34 PM  

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